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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    I'm troubled, however, when I look at the results in isolation: $4200 of that $4504 profit came from that one freeroll I cashed in March. So, taking that one isolated result as somewhat of a lucky fluke, if I remove it from the field and look at the figures otherwise, I only have a profit of $304 over a span of 50 tournaments played.

    That, boys, is hardly going to get it done.
    Firstly, I'm impressed with your record keeping.

    I believe you're making a mistake by disregarding your "lucky fluke" from the equation. The fact is that most of the time you're not going to cash let alone make a big score. You can't expect lots of big cashes on such a low volume of tournaments.

    Have a re-read of Donovan's article on volume and variance:

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    And I do think another part of the problem is, that I'm also trying to solve cash games at the same time. It galls me to think I should have to give up one or the other. But clarifying my focus (and thus the results as well), might just be as practical a matter as that.
    Yeah I agree that this could be an issue. But it's not like you don't know the different approaches that are required for both disciplines, so I don't think you need to give either up.... just tread carefully.

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    You know, Tim, the more I thought about it, I think you're right. I shouldn't just discard that big win as a lucky fluke. Lord knows, they didn't just hand it to me. I still had to outlast 90 other players in a 2 part tournament And besides, just because it was a freeroll shouldn't matter either. These were still the top 90 cash game players from my local casino. And of course, big cashes are where all our profit is going to come from, anyway.
    And thanks for the bump to Donovan's article, also. I guess it would appear that I'm doing just fine after all. :)
    I kinda forgot about those statistics. So thanks-- it's a sigh of relief. I can relax. And that's just what I'm going to do.

    I'll let you know how today's tourney goes. lol

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    IF you what to improve the pych part of your game there are books on it. if it is you pych problems the books are in the book store, but if your more intersted in why poeple do what they do the books are by Mike Caro. he gives insight on why people do what they do (even if they are nto aware of why).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    You know, Tim, the more I thought about it, I think you're right. I shouldn't just discard that big win as a lucky fluke. Lord knows, they didn't just hand it to me. I still had to outlast 90 other players in a 2 part tournament And besides, just because it was a freeroll shouldn't matter either. These were still the top 90 cash game players from my local casino. And of course, big cashes are where all our profit is going to come from, anyway.
    And thanks for the bump to Donovan's article, also. I guess it would appear that I'm doing just fine after all. :)
    I kinda forgot about those statistics. So thanks-- it's a sigh of relief. I can relax. And that's just what I'm going to do.

    I'll let you know how today's tourney goes. lol
    You could use OPR and find a LOT of really good players where most, if not all, of their profits come from their 5-6 biggest cashes. And we are talking over THOUSANDS of MTTs and for HUNDEREDS of thousands of profit.

    I looked at mine and it took until my top 12-13 cashes before I did that, meaning mine has been spread out into a bunch of modest wins. Either I can't win a big tournament or I just haven't played long enough yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    And thanks for the bump to Donovan's article, also. I guess it would appear that I'm doing just fine after all. :)

    I kinda forgot about those statistics. So thanks-- it's a sigh of relief. I can relax. And that's just what I'm going to do.

    I'll let you know how today's tourney goes. lol
    Yeah, it's a good article and I'm glad it helped you put things in perspective.

    Now go and win the tournament!

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    I shoved with JJ yesterday and ran into KK, UL.

    Today I made the final table of a 58 person tournament, then ran into some very bad luck when I got 2-outed on the river two hands in a row to bust out ninth. Still can't believe it.
    Darn, darn, darn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Firstly, I'm impressed with your record keeping.
    I meant to get back to this, also.

    Remember a while back, I recommended "Poker Journal" as an iPhone app? It's what I use, it's tremendously detailed, and easy as pie. Takes about thirty seconds after each tournament to input the data (or a little longer if you use the built in note-pad to take detailed notes on hands, players, etc), and includes charts and reports that break down every single aspect of your play. Do you do better at no limit, or limit? Do you make more money in the daytime, or evening? Do you play better on Thursdays than Fridays? Etc.

    I had only played about 5 live tournaments before November of last year. I clearly remembered the outcome of each (lol), so I had no problem putting in the data and so now, I have an accurate record of every single live tournament I've ever played (except for the bar league games, which I threw up before. lol I lost all of those anyway, and they only cost me a cheeseburger to enter).

    Anyway, I don't work for Poker Journal or anything, I just highly recommend it. Oh, and btw, the author of the software is amazingly prompt and thorough with any e-mail questions or suggestions you might have.

    If you want to check it out, you can YouTube "Poker Journal" and see it in action for yourself.

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    Sounds like a cool app. I just rigged PT3 to import my live tournaments by using a mock tournament summary file for a non-US room I'd never play (yes, that group has grown a bit lately).

    I might check this thing out anyway since PT3 isn't as portable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    Remember a while back, I recommended "Poker Journal" as an iPhone app? It's what I use, it's tremendously detailed, and easy as pie.
    Yep, it's awesome. I think there's a free 'lite' version but it's well worth paying for the premium app. I used it a lot last year when I was in Vegas.

    Back in the day I had an excel spreadsheet to store my results from live games. But I soon gave up trying to remember results and how much I won/lost. The Poker Journal app is the only thing required now!

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