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    Yesterday afternoon, Indiana Live Casino hosted a $100 Buy-in turbo tournament that ran like this: 70 players played at 4:00 pm, blinds went up every five minutes, and the top 30 moved on to the final at 8:00 pm. They repeated this at six with another 70 player pool, where again the top 30 advanced. So, the 8:00 tournament was a 60 player event, same structure, with the top ten getting paid, and the winner taking home $10,000.

    I was going to tell the whole long story but I'll boil it down to this: I made one foolish mistake in the early tournament, but managed to hit a nice hand and double up, and was able to survive into the top thirty.

    In the final, we were down to two tables and I was bleeding chips. With 17 players left, I shoved and got two callers, both had me covered, so I was at risk.

    They showed and .

    The flop was all spades! I tripled up!

    We got down to 15 players, and talk began of a chop. With a $20,000 prize pool total, it would have been somewhere around $1000 each, with a little more for the chip leaders. That would have been fine with me. I got very excited thinking I might even make a little bit more than that if I could just make it to the final table.

    Two more players busted out on the other table, bringing us to 13.

    But the chip leader wouldn't have anything to do with a chop. He wanted it all.

    Next hand, I see , and I know I have to shove. Only two other players at that point had a smaller stack than I did. The blinds were just murderous.

    A player ahead of me shoved, and I snap-called, but as soon as I did, I realized my mistake. I was on the cut-off, I could have waited a few more hands.

    Sure enough, he turns over AK, and I busted out in 13th place.

    So close.

    *sigh*
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    I don't think calling off AQ was a mistake UNLESS you knew these guys are shoving tight. If the player in question could go with AX/KJ/44 whatever, then the call is good.

    I don't know what the blinds were, the stack sizes, or even if antes were involved. Without antes and a feeling that the table was tight due to the bubble/scared play I would fold AQ to these guys. Also, seeing that he must of had you covered his bubble factor is pretty high against you, giving you more reason to fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyckyRych View Post
    I don't think calling off AQ was a mistake UNLESS you knew these guys are shoving tight. If the player in question could go with AX/KJ/44 whatever, then the call is good.

    I don't know what the blinds were, the stack sizes, or even if antes were involved. Without antes and a feeling that the table was tight due to the bubble/scared play I would fold AQ to these guys. Also, seeing that he must of had you covered his bubble factor is pretty high against you, giving you more reason to fold.
    We started $5000 in chips, blinds 25/50 and rising every five minutes. Antes kicked in early, and were at $100 at this point. I had about $7000 in chips, avg stack at that point was probably $25,000, and the blinds were already $1000/2000.

    No, people were getting desperate, and shoving pretty wide. Still, I had a few hands to go where I could have been the shover and not the caller. IDK. Maybe it wasn't as bad a call as I'm thinking it was after all.

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    I really hate that sinking feeling when you're like "this is the hand I just HAVE to shove with" and you do it and then you just KNOW you made the wrong decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    We started $5000 in chips, blinds 25/50 and rising every five minutes. Antes kicked in early, and were at $100 at this point. I had about $7000 in chips, avg stack at that point was probably $25,000, and the blinds were already $1000/2000.

    No, people were getting desperate, and shoving pretty wide. Still, I had a few hands to go where I could have been the shover and not the caller. IDK. Maybe it wasn't as bad a call as I'm thinking it was after all.
    It wasn't clear in your first post, but after reading ^ I don't see you have much choice with just 3.5 big blinds. Even if you're the shover, where's your fold equity? You were unlucky to run into AK. Nice run though.

    BTW, I don't blame the chip leader for turning down a deal.

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    3.5 BBs? I TURBO CALL. I assume you are 6-7 handed, so you have only a few hands left. AQ is likely going to be the best you'll see.

    Yes, I'd rather push than call, but I'm calling off here. You risk 7000 to win 17000 plus antes... pretty good. Plus, if they are pushing wide you are ahead of his range enough to counter the bubble factor. Also, you gain the benefit of having future FE if you win, meaning you can possibly pick up a few orphan pots yourself. Add it all up and its worth the risk. Don't call it a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faustus Fotherby View Post
    I really hate that sinking feeling when you're like "this is the hand I just HAVE to shove with" and you do it and then you just KNOW you made the wrong decision.
    If you HAVE to shove, its not the wrong decision unless you don't shove.
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    Definitely an eyes closed deep breath call for me too. If they were playing anything like they should have been you were likely dominating a large % of their range. Its hard to see it as the right decision when you bust though, the story was written from the moment the cards were dealt, unlucky man

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