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    PokerStars Home Game #57009570490: Tournament #356796769, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (40/80) - 2011/02/02 18:01:36 ET
    Table '356796769 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Know-nuffin (3813 in chips)
    Seat 6: bubbabut (1110 in chips)
    Seat 9: GoatBoy420 (4077 in chips)
    Know-nuffin: posts the ante 10
    bubbabut: posts the ante 10
    GoatBoy420: posts the ante 10
    bubbabut: posts small blind 40
    GoatBoy420: posts big blind 80
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GoatBoy420 [Kh Ad]
    Know-nuffin: raises 160 to 240
    bubbabut: raises 860 to 1100 and is all-in
    GoatBoy420: raises 2967 to 4067 and is all-in
    Know-nuffin: calls 3563 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (264) returned to GoatBoy420
    Know-nuffin said, "lets get it done"
    *** FLOP *** [Kc Td 9h]
    *** TURN *** [Kc Td 9h] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [Kc Td 9h 4c] [5h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    GoatBoy420: shows [Kh Ad] (a pair of Kings)
    Know-nuffin: shows [Js Jh] (a pair of Jacks)
    GoatBoy420 collected 5406 from side pot
    bubbabut: shows [5s Ah] (a pair of Fives)
    GoatBoy420 collected 3330 from main pot
    Know-nuffin finished the tournament in 2nd place and received $1.80.
    bubbabut finished the tournament in 3rd place and received $1.20.
    GoatBoy420 wins the tournament and receives $3.00 - congratulations!
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 8736 Main pot 3330. Side pot 5406. | Rake 0
    Board [Kc Td 9h 4c 5h]
    Seat 1: Know-nuffin (button) showed [Js Jh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 6: bubbabut (small blind) showed [5s Ah] and lost with a pair of Fives
    Seat 9: GoatBoy420 (big blind) showed [Kh Ad] and won (8736) with a pair of Kings
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    Wow, almost wonder if JJ is a fold there ICM-wise (meaning after you shove)... not gonna say I'd fold there either. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyckyRych View Post
    Wow, almost wonder if JJ is a fold there ICM-wise (meaning after you shove)... not gonna say I'd fold there either. :)
    Funnily enough I`ve just been discussing the hand with that guy and he was saying it looks like a bad call. It`s very close in terms of equity if you`re putting me on a tight re-shove range. Not really sure with the ICM calculations, it could be a fold.
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    Do you think the all-in raise before the flop with A-K was a better play than calling wi8th it, seeing the flop, and then taking action from there.

    While the result for this hand would have been the same, I'm just trying to generate some discussion and opinions on a topic that can easily be argued both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Krieger View Post
    Do you think the all-in raise before the flop with A-K was a better play than calling wi8th it, seeing the flop, and then taking action from there.

    While the result for this hand would have been the same, I'm just trying to generate some discussion and opinions on a topic that can easily be argued both ways.
    If I call I price the OR in with a lot of hands, plus I also give him the chance to re-shove and force me to make a decision.

    With the shove I have fold equity and I expect to be HU a lot of the time against a player whose range is a lot wider than mine. After all as we`re 3 handed the OR can have a huge range in that spot. If he folds and I win the hand I extend my chip lead for the HU. If he folds and I lose I really haven`t lost a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerMouse View Post
    If I call I price the OR in with a lot of hands, plus I also give him the chance to re-shove and force me to make a decision.

    With the shove I have fold equity and I expect to be HU a lot of the time against a player whose range is a lot wider than mine. After all as we`re 3 handed the OR can have a huge range in that spot. If he folds and I win the hand I extend my chip lead for the HU. If he folds and I lose I really haven`t lost a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queso View Post
    Your poker lesson is over for the day... hopefully you will learn more tomorrow.
    lol nice cross-thread linkage
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    I would much prefer to isolate the all-in. We should be well enough ahead of the shorty's range with AK and our fold equity is quite large against the button's opening range. Also I'd prefer to make my final decision now (preflop) rather than play post-flop OOP, or have to decide whether to call an over-the-top shove from the original raiser if I flatted.
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