Plan B.S

[Bigevil19]

Full Tilt Poker Game #19077360779: $1 + $0.10 Tournament (144941381), Table 29 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:52:40 ET - 2010/03/08
Seat 1: bphlatnc75 (4,010)
Seat 2: BUDULAI39-- (6,925)
Seat 3: Bigevil19 (740)
Seat 4: 1 potatos (3,485)
Seat 5: amstaff84 (990)
Seat 6: hageboy (3,850), is sitting out
amstaff84 posts the small blind of 30
hageboy posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bigevil19 [9c 9s]
BUDULAI39-- calls 60
Bigevil19 raises to 740, and is all in
BUDULAI39-- calls 680
Bigevil19 shows [9c 9s]
BUDULAI39-- shows [6c Th]
*** FLOP *** [7c Qh Qd]
*** TURN *** [7c Qh Qd] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7c Qh Qd 3s] [Tc]
Bigevil19 shows two pair, Queens and Nines
BUDULAI39-- shows two pair, Queens and Tens
BUDULAI39-- wins the pot (1,570) with two pair, Queens and Tens

How does this F***ING SH**T keep hapening to me over and over again and again, 95% of the time on the RIVER.I was low on chips waited for a good hand to push with, picked the right spot to move in.I really don't understand this SH**T sometimes.I was playing tight how could he make that call he that F***ING DUMB.Full Tilt claim there site is not rigged 100% random what a load of BULLSH**T.

[RyckyRych]

<sigh>

Its not rigged. Honest. They don't randomly pick out people to screw over. There is no "doom switch". Not everyone can be getting screwed all the time, every hand. Someone has to win.

Look, this going to happen to you about 25-30% of the time in these kind of spots. Its called odds. If the hand was merely decided on who had the better hand preflop, well, we wouldn't need a flop.

Was his play horribad? Yes. Was it really that unreasonable? Maybe, but it did only cost him about 10% of his stack to try.

All I know is this: I want that guy at my table. In the long run I'd make a fortune off of him if he plays like that all the time. Relish that thought.

MDFR

[Bigevil19]

I think it is rigged in that the bigger stack seemingly always wins over a smaller stack no matter what their cards are AA vs 72 they win.It's all business the faster tournaments are over the more money they make and they do this by eliminating the short stacks,also the eliminated players buys-in to another tournament. Nothing in business is random believe that, maximized profits is what it's all about.

[SilentBobAK47]

Originally Posted by Bigevil19

I think it is rigged in that the bigger stack seemingly always wins over a smaller stack no matter what their cards are AA vs 72 they win.It's all business the faster tournaments are over the more money they make and they do this by eliminating the short stacks,also the eliminated players buys-in to another tournament. Nothing in business is random believe that, maximized profits is what it's all about.

Or it could be that the big stack is just plain running well at that time...

I too thought it was rigged but I'm still playing on there so they must be doing something right. I'm never going to give up if they put a brutal beat on me I just take a little break and try again.

They can't suck out every time...

[EddieRich]

I used to feel the same as you. Then I read an article or a lesson here about the psycology of poker. We tend to remember the bad and forget the good. So, whenever you suckout, you simply pass it off as a win and move on. When someone else sucks-out, you start thinking the game must be fixed. Go back in your hand histories and see how many times you actually won because of the river card hitting for you. The numbers might surprise you.

[RyckyRych]

Sooooo, how do they decide who gets the big stacks?

I've won a bounty MTT on UB that had 400+ runners in it where I was knocked down to under 400 chips early... and in those bounty game people are gunning for your $1. I've won SNGs MANY times when I've been crippled at some point in the game. I've played plenty of SNGs when I've had a huge lead 4 or 5-handed and failed to cash.

I'm sure the business model has more to do with providing fair and balanced games as best they can... not to see how fast they can punch out games. If that were the case they would just deal out a bunch of pairs and high AXs hands and make sure the flops have tons of flushes, straights and sets/quads in them to ensure multiple people get knocked out each hand.

Look, I get it. I've been there and I feel like that at least a few times a week. The fact of the matter is that I realized a long time ago that I want people playing like this. I want these guys to put their money in bad as often as I can get it. Yes, my soul gets crushed. But over time I've reaped the rewards as well.

If you really feel the online game is rigged.... well.... good luck at the casino. I'll be at my desk looking for all the profit in my pajamas.

[DangerMouse]

Originally Posted by EddieRich

Go back in your hand histories and see how many times you actually won because of the river card hitting for you. The numbers might surprise you.

In my case . . . Naaaaaaaaah they wouldn`t

Actually there will be more than I remember, but not that many. But I expect to take beats because I get my money in ahead most of the time. And as Rycky said, that`s ok because long term I`m getting paid off.

I`d also agree with everything else he`s said.

[Bigevil19]

Originally Posted by EddieRich

I used to feel the same as you. Then I read an article or a lesson here about the psycology of poker. We tend to remember the bad and forget the good. So, whenever you suckout, you simply pass it off as a win and move on. When someone else sucks-out, you start thinking the game must be fixed. Go back in your hand histories and see how many times you actually won because of the river card hitting for you. The numbers might surprise you.

I have been saved by the a few times but not nearly as close to the number of times i have been sucked out.I am so positive I can send you my hand histories if you think i'm lying.

[Bigevil19]

[quote=RyckyRych;12458]Sooooo, how do they decide who gets the big stacks?

I know there would be a ? like this, i guess it's fair game early on then short stacks gets eliminated.I am not saying this always happens i have personally came back a couple of times from 400-600 when blinds were high but that's not often.For the record i agree 100% bad beats happen that's a factor it's part of the game but it happens to often online vs live.I know some of you will say we see more hands online than live that's why.

[DangerMouse]

i agree 100% bad beats happen that's a factor it's part of the game but it happens to often online vs live..[/quote]

I`ve just finished re-watching High Stakes Poker season 2. In virtually every episode Daniel Negreanu flops the nuts only to end up crushed on the turn or river.

If it does happen more online, and I tend to think it doesn`t, it would be because people can make wild calls and if they hit they don`t have to physically face the poor sap they just bad beat and the possible critiscism of the other players.