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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 01:57 PM
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So, well, this recent hand of mine was for sure interesting to me, despite everyone being rather timid preflop.
This time I was facing slightly stronger opponents than in some previous examples. Player 4 had a VPIP of 12%, PFR 6% but reasonable post-flop aggression, Player 6 was a calling station (didn't have much data on him though) with 29% VPIP.
What do you think about this play? Go nuts if you think it's horrible, but a reason would be appreciated

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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 03:35 PM
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Wowsers!

Not sure I would have called, much less re-raised with top 2 against a raise and a re-raise on that board. I wish you`d done it as a play-thru hand because it`d be easier to be subjective. In all honesty the worst play was made by the calling station who probably should have 5-bet the flop and maybe could have gotten away from the hand on the turn. Classic lvl1 thinking going on there imo.
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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 04:57 PM
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With a raise and reraise I'd have folded on the flop for definite sure, so many limps like that at those stakes then someone's practically guaranteed to have had a small pocket pair and that board's perfect for them to set up - even if I make a full house then I might be beaten by their own one - you were fortunate in that respect.
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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 05:31 PM
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Wow is right.

Depending on just how much these guys can overplay top-pair types, I'm pretty sure I'd have folded top two here. I'd have hated to do it though. I wouldn't want to play for stacks this deep in this spot.

Then again, I don't play cash.
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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 06:52 PM
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I never would have re-raised again after a raise and a re-raise ahead of me with only top two. I would have grudgingly called and could only hope to boat up in this hand. You know for a fact you're facing either a set or a straight. I can see the guy with the straight trying to make some money on a rainbow board, but on the other hand, he should know a set is likely out there as well, and I would want to make them pay full price to see the board pair.
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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 07:55 PM
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The only thing I'd have done the same would be to call pre-flop. Ideally with a marginal hand like 97s you want to flop a monster. Two-pair is often strong enough, but it's certainly not a monster. And when you consider the preceeding betting action and your opponent's playing tendencies it should be obvious that two-pair isn't ahead on the flop.

If player 6 is truly a calling station then there's no way he's re-raising the tight player with anything less than a set. Otherwise he can't be described as a calling station.

In short, you massively over-played your hand and it looks like you were only thinking about your own cards. But it was an entertaining hand to watch.
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Old Jan 27th, 2012, 10:21 PM
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I never would have re-raised again after a raise and a re-raise ahead of me with only top two. I would have grudgingly called and could only hope to boat up in this hand. You know for a fact you're facing either a set or a straight. I can see the guy with the straight trying to make some money on a rainbow board, but on the other hand, he should know a set is likely out there as well, and I would want to make them pay full price to see the board pair.
I don't think I even call unless I felt there was a somewhat large chance that at least one of these guys was drawing or overplaying top pair/a overpair (like a trapping AA). Overall I don't think its a profitable call long-term.
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Old Jan 28th, 2012, 02:18 AM
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Totally agree with Rycky and Queso... this is one of those "Eeek, I'm calling reluctantly/folding."-spots. Pre-flop call is fine, though.
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Old Jan 28th, 2012, 01:38 PM
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Yep retrospectively it was really a fold on the flop for me. But yeah, exciting hand to play!
At that point however I had just started the session, I knew player 4 but player 6 I had seen VPIP exactly twice before. I know this is where you should be most careful, but somehow this raise seemed out of proportion and I wanted to put it to the test. Sometimes people get randomly over-aggressive on below jack high rainbow boards, or semi-bluff with a straight draw.
I knew if I get a call or an all-in I'd be behind for sure, but I had a few outs (didn't think of reverse implied odds that moment tbh, but I'm sure player 6 would have made the PFR with 99).
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Old Jan 29th, 2012, 02:51 AM
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I loved the raise. You were looking for a chance to felt players who looked ready to go all-in if given enough opportunity. Then you could back down with half your stack if nothing developed. However you you hit your card on the turn and capitalized. You gotta have a gambler's heart to really be a gambler. I wonder what Doyle Brunson would say about this hand? I envy the gambler in you.
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