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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 09:34 PM
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I sit down in a nl hold'em ring game recently and early on, so I have really no info on players, the following unfolds. I'm in the BB with . The UTG raises 3x, one middle player and one late player call, SB folds and I call.

The flop is ... Whoo Hoo, a royal draw. I bet out and get raised, the other two players fold and I call. The turn is a blank and I check and call. The river is the second best card in the deck ...

Do you check or bet?
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 09:48 PM
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Stack sizes, pot size? C`mon TIME you know we need more info
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 10:35 PM
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Fold and show for the table image.

The 9s is the best card IF he has the Ace flush. But he'd have to have A8 or worse for the flush, and based on the betting that seems unlikely. He's obviously got a strong hand. I think I'd make a value bet rather than check.
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 10:39 PM
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Danger ... not really germane to the situation. Did you notice I didn't mention stakes at all. We both have about $400.

C'mon DangerMouse, just give me a gut feel as to how you would handle it.
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 10:42 PM
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That's exactly what I did ... you should have seen the looks I'll tell you what happened later or tomorrow.
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Meh, MTT mentality here but...

Absent of the blind levels/pot size, I check to the flop-raiser. Often its either top pair or the draw (hopefully the AXs draw) that will raise the flop here.

If he bets I would likely call then shove any river, hoping he "caught up". If he checks I shove the river also, hoping it looks more desparate to win the pot.
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 10:55 PM
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Meh, MTT mentality here but...

Absent of the blind levels/pot size, I check to the flop-raiser. Often its either top pair or the draw (hopefully the AXs draw) that will raise the flop here.

If he bets I would likely call then shove any river, hoping he "caught up". If he checks I shove the river also, hoping it looks more desparate to win the pot.
Yes, Rycky it's a cash game. There was only one question ... the river has already been dealt. I guess your answer is push all-in?
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Old Jun 25th, 2010, 10:58 PM
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Oh I missed that, I see now you said the turn was a blank.

Well, this is different. Again, depends on the pot to stacks ratio to me. I'm guessing you both have a at least a 3:1 ratio so I'd lead out for around 2/3 the pot... something that might give the impression that I'd leave myself enough to fold to a shove.
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Danger ... not really germane to the situation. Did you notice I didn't mention stakes at all. We both have about $400.

C'mon DangerMouse, just give me a gut feel as to how you would handle it.
Sorry TIME, I noticed, just couldn`t resist ragging on you a little

I`m going to lead out, probably about 1/4 to 1/3 pot. He seems very strong and might have something it`s tough for him to fold. It seems unlikely he has the ace flush unless he`s been overplaying A5 - A8 so the most likely hand seems a set or TPTK. If he sees the bet as weak or does have the ace flush then we get to stack him after he re-raises.
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Old Jun 26th, 2010, 01:14 AM
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Sorry TIME, I noticed, just couldn`t resist ragging on you a little
It's all good. I guess you figure with Queso out of the picture for a bit you need to pick up the slack

Anyone else? On the hand not the ragging ... before I reveal the TIMEmeister's action and the result?
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